tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post3577370937806748096..comments2023-06-14T06:46:23.844-05:00Comments on Savvy Working Gal: SWG Coffee Social: Job DisillusionmentSavvyworkinggalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08159197609419858161noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post-73537326367648768842012-08-11T08:58:16.897-05:002012-08-11T08:58:16.897-05:00CF@Outlier Model:
Interesting comment. I just no...CF@Outlier Model:<br /><br />Interesting comment. I just noticed this week almost all of the middle managers in our company make about the same. Our VP of operations and the manager whose department is the most profitable are quite upset about this. They both (with my coaching) asked for more money this week. Both were turned down. Talk about a kick in the pants. They feel why put in the extra effort when they aren't rewarded for it. <br /><br />What was your career change? Would love to hear more about it. What worked? What you wish you had known prior? Please come back and share.Savvyworkinggalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08159197609419858161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post-78318139001297946192012-08-09T23:01:35.213-05:002012-08-09T23:01:35.213-05:00Found this site while browsing - Some of those sto...Found this site while browsing - Some of those stories are quite depressing! From my own experience, my colleagues became disillusioned not so much with being passed over for promotions or raises but by the fact that there weren't any incentives. In my former workplace, whether or not you work hard has no bearing on what your yearly raise will be. Everyone gets the same amount. So there's no reason to work hard!<br /><br />Personally, it was one of the reason why I changed fields - I wanted a place where I could be challenged and have at least a chance at achieving something. Hopefully some of the people you mentioned above will get another chance as well!CF @ OutlierModelhttp://www.outliermodel.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post-30940489318402201492012-04-29T12:50:25.146-05:002012-04-29T12:50:25.146-05:00Webb,
Thanks for your insights on getting an MBA. ...Webb,<br />Thanks for your insights on getting an MBA. I think you’ve summed up their value perfectly. If I ever write a lessons learned summary I am including your advice.<br /><br />With my job I go from being bored to overwhelmed and frustrated. I agree with you though it is in my best interest to do everything I can to make sure I don’t lose it.<br /><br />Revanche,<br />Wow, you’ve got Kate pegged, or at least how her company perceives her. She once asked me when I work long hours or put in face time what I actually did during this time. (As if I made up things to do just to put in longer hours.) I’ve worked with her on committees for an organization where we both volunteer and she usually ends up doing most of the work (which she does while at her day job). I on the other hand barely have time to answer an email that is not work related. This leads me to believe she is under-employed for her skill set. There may also be a bit of rushing through work when she has something else she wants to do, because almost every accountant I know has to work long hours at some point during the year (think audits, month-end, year-end or the budget process).<br /><br />Sometimes you also have to look at the kind of experience you have. The positions she is seeking require manufacturing cost accounting experience and public accounting experience from one of the Big 4 firms neither of which she has. With the job market the way it is, companies can get the kind of experience they are looking for. Possibly in addition to putting in the face-time the males who are being promoted over her also have this experience. <br /><br />Thanks for your insight it was very perceptive.Savvyworkinggalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08159197609419858161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post-64610078618156177042012-04-25T20:25:54.414-05:002012-04-25T20:25:54.414-05:00Not disillusioned, just tired. But I've linked...Not disillusioned, just tired. But I've linked to you in part two of my mini Career Week posts. <br /><br />It's a shame about Kate's promotion but as with any interview and test, I do empathize that the decisionmaking tends to be: past performance is an indicator of future performance. <br /><br />One example from my past experience: I had an 8 hr a day worker who went for a promotion and gave me the same line. She was given the promotion and still has an 8 hr a day mentality. She does not do everything it takes to get the job done, she does everything it takes to fit the job to her hours. <br /><br />I see this pattern repeated across generations and personalities and in general, the people who volunteer and request to do some overtime to get the job done are the people who are going to be the ones who you can trust not to be 8-5ers. It's not facetime for me, it's simply whether or not you will make sure the job is done well, right, and on time. If you get it done early in less time because you figured out how to be more efficient, bravo. <br /><br />But the question is one of motivation to complete in my approach, rather than facetime. <br /><br />You're looking for the fire to finish, and you have to see that in a person before the time for promotion comes up, not at the time of the interview. Otherwise, you're just stating words and not verifiable facts.Revanchehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07293868300535734672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34866775.post-23068335883661341222012-04-01T19:53:31.254-05:002012-04-01T19:53:31.254-05:00Tough topic. Everything you read says that in thi...Tough topic. Everything you read says that in this tough economy businesses are keeping the women because they are PAID less, but that means that when they bring back the men it will be at higher salaries, despite the fact that we have carried the load during the down times.<br /><br />I have never worked anywhere that getting an MBA helped with either job or salary. I really think it is only helpful when changing jobs. The current employer doesn't perceive any additional value in a current employee getting one. <br /><br />There's nothing at all wrong with my job, but I am terminally bored. With only three more years until I can retire (I hope!) I am marking time and making sure I don;t lose it! Not the best way to get up every morning, tho. <br /><br />Hope you have a good week!webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168174623602308906noreply@blogger.com